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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Is America finally learning its lesson? Reply with quote

I thought this was an interesting news item coming out of the USA.

Apparently the US Army will in future be placing as much emphasis on "winning hearts and minds" as it does on winning wars by force.

BBC News wrote:

New approach for US army manual


The US army has drafted a new manual which for the first time puts an equal emphasis on winning hearts and minds as it does on defeating enemies by force.

The manual is expected to be published later this month.

The new guide is seen as a major development that draws on lessons of the wars being fought by US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Initial military successes there have given way to long struggles, with insurgents in both countries.


Winning the peace

The commander of the US Army's Combined Arms Centre, Gen William Caldwell, told the BBC that the US army had learned from its experiences since 2001 that stabilising countries and winning over locals required more than just military skills.

Knowledge of foreign languages and local cultures are also important, he said.

The US army might win every battle it fought, he said, without achieving its real goal - winning the peace.

Gen Caldwell described the manual as a blueprint to follow for the next 10 to 15 years, but other officers say it will take time before the advice from the manual is translated into real change on the ground.


BBC News article with video news report...


I particularly found these lines encouraging...

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"the US army had learned from its experiences since 2001 that stabilising countries and winning over locals required more than just military skills"


and...

Quote:
"Knowledge of foreign languages and local cultures are also important"


Of course these are the kind of things other countries have been saying to the US for years, but the advice seemed to fall on deaf ears.

So, do you think this 'new approach' to warfare will actually change anything? Can a war machine that has always been geared towards 'annihilation of the enemy' suddenly start doing the touchy-feely stuff that is almost, dare I say it... liberal? Shocked
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myron myron
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myron myron wrote:
No.


Such brevity Myron... Not your usual style? Shocked Very Happy Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just being responsive. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gen Caldwell described the manual as a blueprint to follow for the next 10 to 15 years


my first thought when I read this was just how many countries are they planning on invading? Shocked Laughing
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myron myron
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever it takes. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Priming for an argument myron? Razz Laughing Because The Colonel isnt here yet and I just got up and Im hungry so can I have my breakfast first please? Smile
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myron myron
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, just teasing. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane_ wrote:
Priming for an argument myron? Razz Laughing Because The Colonel isnt here yet and I just got up and Im hungry so can I have my breakfast first please? Smile

Is there anything nicer than hot buttered toast Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see people almost every day who've done time overseas and there not bad at all. Soldiers are tools , the rea decesion making is done by the politicians in charge .

little georgey and his crew give the orders and set the tone . There wud have been no Abu Ghraib had they not been all obsessed with pretending there tough guys and brought in people to help from countrys where torture is normal like israel and Egypt .

Many here are pushing for war with Iran next but thank heavens even a boob like george jr. has backed of from that . Maybe in part since there's talk several generals and admirals have threatened to resign saying we don't have the trops to do it .
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myron myron wrote:
Whatever it takes. Wink


Don't we just know it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just cant wait for Obama to be their first black president.......The forums will be on fire Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AussieAdam wrote:
I just cant wait for Obama to be their first black president.......The forums will be on fire Laughing

So you're a racist then?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ausie Adam is aggood guy so don't think he's a bigot

But if there is a Presidnet Obama it will be interesting to see how it affects the whole race issue and how the race issue affects him there in Washington DC.
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