GayandProud
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the pope a nazi? it should be made clear that benedict xvi was for a long time an influential person in the vatican and his positions against nazism and anti-semitism have not just appeared since his election as pope.
that ratzinger was a member of the hitler youth is a biographical fact. from the way the way some people talk about it, you would think this is a skeleton that he keeps firmly in his closet, but he mentions it in his memoirs. his critics conveniently forget that enrolment in the hitler youth was compulsory. and he was conscripted into the german army. but he was never a member of the nazi party.
if he was anti-semitic, would benedict xvi visit cologne’s synagogue? cologne is a city with a rich jewish history dating back to the time of the roman empire. it is a city that experienced the kristalnacht - the pogrom against the jews that took place throughout germany in 1938.
i find it odd that a lot of people have nothing but good to say about john paul ii, but nothing good to say about benedict xvi. the then cardinal ratzinger was, after all, one of john paul ii's closest advisors. he may not be as charismatic as his predecessor, but he is the right person to head the church at this trying time.
yes, the church did overlook the abuse of children, and is now paying the price. pope benedict met with victims of paedophile priests during his trip to the united states. the group prayed together and the pontiff then listened to the stories of the victims, and "offered them words of encouragement and hope". benedict has spoken repeatedly about the abuse crisis during his trip to the united states. he called the crisis a cause of "deep shame," pledged to keep paedophiles out of the priesthood and decried the "enormous pain" that communities have suffered from such "gravely immoral behaviour" by priests. he told the bishops that the crisis was "sometimes very badly handled," and that they must reach out with love and compassion to victims.
the pope isn't all seeing or all knowing (and benedict xvi wasn't even pope when all this was happening). he doesn't know what is going on in every parish around the world. remember there are around 1.2 billion catholics all over the world. he can't magically solve everyone's problems. benedict xvi did meet with some abuse victims, and he's not deaf to the situation. he has ancknowledged that the scandal was handled poorly by bishops. what has he done to correct the situation? as much as possible at this stage i think.
should some bishops have been held more accountable. yes, if it can be proved that they knowingly ignored and enabled the situation. and depending on the circumstances, this could be in the ecclesial or secular courts, or both.
you cannot change what has already happened, but you can take steps to stop it happening again. benedict xvi is on record as saying “we are deeply ashamed, and we will do all that is possible that this cannot happen in the future”. which is as it should be. |
I thought Id read this somewhere before !
minigirl are you also "newpoppop" from Parkville, Maryland, in this thread...
http://www.baltimoresun2.com/talk/showthread.php?p=3223218
oh no, coz you live in Australia !  Plagiarism is alive and well |
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