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Paul-F FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)

Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Barack the perfect candidate |
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Is it just me, or is Obama the perfect candidate?
I can't find anything wrong with him. I'm an atheist, and I still strongly support his positions on religion. I agree with his foreign policy, his idea for social reform, his stance on "the green movement," and even his feelings about 'the religious right.'
The only thing I've seen people bash him on is his "lack of experience", but years in Illinois, books written and 11 years teaching Constitutional law is enough for me, even as Commander in Chief. Call me naive.
Can anyone find anything that makes him look bad? I've been google videoing all day and I can't find anything. He doesn't even seem wish-washy. There's no "arguing with himself" videos like there are with Hillary, et. al.
I suppose if you were super religious or super Republican you might not like him, but damn if I'm not close to agreeing with Obama girl. He seems like a very solid candidate.
Some videos to support my hypothesis:
"His Plans for 2008":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5h95s0OuEg
Him on Tyra Show - makes him seem very human and humble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLpDSLRBoVI
His "Relgious" opinion; skip to 2:05 to get past all the Jesus stuff right to his speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPqBVxxNbY
His Foreign Policy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUcX_lv5QjY
"Our military power is just one component of our power… [..] and I will do whatever it takes as Commander in Chief to keep the American people safe. But I know that part of keeping us safe is restoring our respect in our world. And I think those who are advising me agree with that, and part of our agenda that we are putting forward …initiating contacts with Muslim leaders in the world, doubling our efforts in terms of in terms of foreign aid. All those are designed to create long-term security, by creating long-term prosperity around the world.”
For giggles; Obama Girl (not really SFW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
His official policy page (biased, but still good):
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
He's also one of very few candidates to address net neutrality, but that's not surprising considering he has a million mySpace and Facebook pages and seems generally tech-savvy (another important thing, for me). |
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Lena FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 28709 Location: Kentucky , USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I like him but he has weak points ..............not much experience and we've seen just how bad that can be with the fool little georgey.
Also the impression of many white working people that he's had everything handed to him since he's a smart black guy who may not be 100 % American .His wife and preachers ignornat comments helped that along .
Still am for him .  |
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ZiaAries FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 14084 Location: United States of America
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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Is it just me, or is Obama the perfect candidate?
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Look again Paul. Or maybe you are not looking in the right places if you are not a working American. Check out his purposed budget. He lacks experience and his wife is a racist.
He's nice looking and a charismatic person but he's not ready to take the office. I like lots of his views on the issues but I don't see him and reality being a good mix. |
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myron myron FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 5865
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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| Paul-F wrote: |
Is it just me, or is Obama the perfect candidate?
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It is just you. |
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Cambridge FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1583
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| I suppose if you were super religious or super republican you might not like him |
That would be Zia and Myron.
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| Check out his purposed budget |
Have we seen GWB’s budgets for the Muslim American war? By comparison, Obama is a downright thrifty Scot.
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| He's nice looking and a charismatic person but he's not ready to take the office. I like lots of his views on the issues but I don't see him and reality being a good mix |
Unfortunately, all the candidates look like that. |
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ZiaAries FemaleFirst Guru

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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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How do you get that I am religious? Statements like this tends to make me think myron is right about you. Condescend all you want. Your insult takes away any consideration for what you have to say on here. Have fun with your play Cambridge.
Between Hillary and Obama, The US will be in better hands with Hillary. |
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Cambridge FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Statements like this tends to make me think myron is right about you. |
Zia, let’s not play games, okay? You thot Z was right about me as soon as you found out that I didn’t fit your politics. Let’s not pretend we’re talking about objectivity here. It’s all politics.
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| Condescend all you want. Your insult takes away any consideration for what you have to say on here. Have fun with your play Cambridge. |
Zia, don’t lose it. Just because someone calls you a conservative—which I would hazard you would call yourself—is no reason to get so hostile. You should be able to handle things better.
And, with all of these candidates, the US will be better off closing down.  |
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ZiaAries FemaleFirst Guru

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Cambridge FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
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Then go to bed, zia. That's what I'm gonna do.  |
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Black&Bold FemaleFirst Guru
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 4721
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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| Paul-F wrote: |
Is it just me, or is Obama the perfect candidate?
I can't find anything wrong with him. I'm an atheist, and I still strongly support his positions on religion. I agree with his foreign policy, his idea for social reform, his stance on "the green movement," and even his feelings about 'the religious right.'
The only thing I've seen people bash him on is his "lack of experience", but years in Illinois, books written and 11 years teaching Constitutional law is enough for me, even as Commander in Chief. Call me naive.
Can anyone find anything that makes him look bad? I've been google videoing all day and I can't find anything. He doesn't even seem wish-washy. There's no "arguing with himself" videos like there are with Hillary, et. al.
I suppose if you were super religious or super Republican you might not like him, but damn if I'm not close to agreeing with Obama girl. He seems like a very solid candidate.
Some videos to support my hypothesis:
"His Plans for 2008":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5h95s0OuEg
Him on Tyra Show - makes him seem very human and humble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLpDSLRBoVI
His "Relgious" opinion; skip to 2:05 to get past all the Jesus stuff right to his speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPqBVxxNbY
His Foreign Policy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUcX_lv5QjY
"Our military power is just one component of our power… [..] and I will do whatever it takes as Commander in Chief to keep the American people safe. But I know that part of keeping us safe is restoring our respect in our world. And I think those who are advising me agree with that, and part of our agenda that we are putting forward …initiating contacts with Muslim leaders in the world, doubling our efforts in terms of in terms of foreign aid. All those are designed to create long-term security, by creating long-term prosperity around the world.”
For giggles; Obama Girl (not really SFW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
His official policy page (biased, but still good):
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
He's also one of very few candidates to address net neutrality, but that's not surprising considering he has a million mySpace and Facebook pages and seems generally tech-savvy (another important thing, for me). |
I agree and he will win.  |
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myron myron FemaleFirst Guru

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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I agree and he will win.
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Something tells me you're not American. |
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Cambridge FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1583
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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| myron myron wrote: |
| Black&Bold wrote: |
I agree and he will win.
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Something tells me you're not American. |
Something tells me that you're not American. You were born in Turkey, right? You're a Turk. Many of us enjoy the privilege of having been born within the territorial limits of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. And schooled there. Curiously, I find that means very little to you.
But, I am finding out how very much it means to us. It means freedom from false imprisonment, freedom from torture, freedom from invasions of privacy, freedom of human rights, freedom from illegal search and seizure, freedom to face your accusers, freedom of due process and freedom of equal protection of the laws. All the things that you don't believe in.
Have I missed anything? I would guess I have. But what the hell, that’s enough to prove that while you may have joined in citizenship, you have not gained our American spirit. You are an outcast, and as long as you believe in such un-American beliefs as you do, may you always be, as God is my witness. |
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myron myron FemaleFirst Guru

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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Something tells me that you're not American. You were born in Turkey, right? You're a Turk.
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Is that what American law provides?
Those voices in your head are misinforming you again.  |
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Cambridge FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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I claim to be an American Citizen. I claim the nobility and the righteousness that comes with that title. I claim the beliefs of the American Citizen. I claim the Constitutional rights of the American Citizen. I claim, first and foremost, the right that every person is entitled to due process of law and equal protection of the laws. I claim, under that Constitutional, to be free from infringement of my right to privacy, my right to be free from illegal search and seizure, to be free from illegal incarceration, to be free from illegal torture, to be free from illegal rendering, to be free from illegal waterboarding, to be free from violations of the Geneva Conventions and, yes, as one American, to be free from the violations of the Rome Accord.
How does our resident Turk stand? |
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GayandProud FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 3847
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Barack the perfect candidate |
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| myron myron wrote: |
| Paul-F wrote: |
Is it just me, or is Obama the perfect candidate?
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It is just you. |
LOL so dry  |
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