Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: TCA
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The marks can be removed totally!
TCA is temporary for recurring conditions such as Acne, Wrinkles etc. However it's permanent for scars, sm's, freckles, tats or anything of that nature.
If it were this simple we wouldn't have this forum and all the thousands of web sites with products that supposedly cure SMs. Some doctor or med-spa somewhere would have let this cat out of the bag long ago and would be making boat loads of bucks. And none of us would need to be here still searching for solutions.
Just about every doctor, dermatologist, esthetician I have been to over the years says the same thing: If there were a solution, EVERYONE would know about it (unless of course there is a conspiracy against all of us who suffer from SMs ).
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: TCA
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. wrote:
The marks can be removed totally!
TCA is temporary for recurring conditions such as Acne, Wrinkles etc. However it's permanent for scars, sm's, freckles, tats or anything of that nature.
If it were this simple we wouldn't have this forum and all the thousands of web sites with products that supposedly cure SMs. Some doctor or med-spa somewhere would have let this cat out of the bag long ago and would be making boat loads of bucks. And none of us would need to be here still searching for solutions.
Just about every doctor, dermatologist, esthetician I have been to over the years says the same thing: If there were a solution, EVERYONE would know about it (unless of course there is a conspiracy against all of us who suffer from SMs ).
Negative energy is not a good thing..Neither is getting pleasure from saying nothing can be done. It's like you want to pull everyone down to where you are.
Sorry, but I won't be taken there, it is better to remain positive and hopeful and I would advise everyone to remain positive, because being negative about stretch marks does not achieve anything.
I don't mean to be rude but it is quite draining at times to read ultimately pointless posts saying nothing can be done, if you believe that, you would not waste your time posting.
I might also add that I brush my teeth every day twice a day to keep them in good condition. I do not see this as a chore, it is something I accept that I do to stop myself from having rotten teeth. If the end result with tca is that you have to apply it once or twice a year to maintain healthy normal skin then that will not be a chore either, but a blessing. It would be nice if we could now end the discussion about stretch marks returning once and for all. If tca removes them for 6 months, and you have to do an occasional maintenance peel to stop them returning, then there is not a person on this planet that should not find that acceptable and as far as I am concerned, for me at least, that is tantamount to a cure.
There is a difference between reality and negativity. Stating reality is not being negative. I agree staying positive is a very good thing. I also believe doing something is better than doing nothing. And I also believe it is wise to have some reality sprinkled in with all that positive energy. Balance is important. Managing expections is also important.
The reality is if there were a true solution to SMs everyone would know about it. To stay positive when faced with this reality: doing something at least improves the appearance even if it is not a total solution.
There is a difference between reality and negativity. Stating reality is not being negative. I agree staying positive is a very good thing. I also believe doing something is better than doing nothing. And I also believe it is wise to have some reality sprinkled in with all that positive energy. Balance is important. Managing expections is also important.
The reality is if there were a true solution to SMs everyone would know about it. To stay positive when faced with this reality: doing something at least improves the appearance even if it is not a total solution.
If tca can remove your stretch marks for 6 months before you need to a top up peel to keep them removed then it is a solution. It is better to start a routine for your skin, than to live in a state of defeat and resentment of the efforts of others.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: TCA
. wrote:
If it were this simple we wouldn't have this forum and all the thousands of web sites with products that supposedly cure SMs. Some doctor or med-spa somewhere would have let this cat out of the bag long ago and would be making boat loads of bucks. And none of us would need to be here still searching for solutions.
Just about every doctor, dermatologist, esthetician I have been to over the years says the same thing: If there were a solution, EVERYONE would know about it (unless of course there is a conspiracy against all of us who suffer from SMs ).
Why wouldn't you have this forum exactly? There are multiple ways to treat acne, wrinkles or whatever. Yet look how many products, methods, forums or anything else of that nature are out there to this day on the net.
As to the other part. If someone 'found' a way to do it. How exactly would they cash in. They'd offer it, then others would get around & they'd copy the exact same methods!!!!
There are at least 2 ways to remove SM's.
1 is a series of TCA peels
2 is a whole lotta Microdermabrasion treatments
The second one is being offered by clinics/salons/spas or whatever. Only problem is nearly everybody won't be able to afford the thousands of pounds worth of treatments that you'd need.
TCA can remove tats, yet how many salons or spas will use it for this purpose.
If there was a salon that offered it. Would you still not get the doom & gloom brigade that refuses to believe it.
So if you read the bottom of the page, do you believe them or are you still skeptical.... Thus, I rest my case! You will not believe it no matter what!
Salons will do the TCA, then take it off after a few mins. You then go home & put the creams on yourself & do all the healing at home. Then go back many weeks later & do the exact same thing. I'd save myself hundreds & do it myself at home. Just make sure you get yourself some proper genuine TCA from a reputable seller. Salons, don't do anything special or magical that you can't do by yourself in the comfort of your own home.
Lastly, you may not believe TCA can do anything. Site's such as the German one that's been linked to numerous times in this thread, were all concoted & faked for a laugh.
There are 2 methods of SM removal:
1) Series of TCA peels. Very time consuming, with down time.
2) A whole lotta Microdermabrasion. Minimum is 20. Ideally, around 50. Done at a period of once a week. Very, very expensive.
You can choose to live with them, or you can do whatever you want. Honestly, I don't know you, nor will ever get to know you. So in truth, don't care about you or your marks. You don't want to be helped or do TCA or anything, then nobody is forcing you. Ignore it & find another way yourself. As they say, put up or shut up. Don't denounce anything put up freely unless you have a better way yourself. I've posted some info in the last few pages for people that want to do something about their marks. Whether you want to take it on board or not is entirely your concern. Your body, your life, your marks = Your reponsibility!
I want to say though, I don't want this to turn into a witch hunt. Anyone can post here, but here is the thing, you have posted many times before, and every post is negative. You may not realise you are doing it, but you are.
Stretch marks cause a great deal of pain to lots of people, I know, I have been there. Read between the lines of your posts and it is easy to see you are full of pain. I am too, but I choose to be positive rather than negative about them, because ultimately I WANT RID OF THEM. My posts are selfish in a way, I only share information to gain information and because others did the same thing before me. We are all here for ultimately selfish reasons because we all want rid of our own marks.
So there it is we share information because, if others had not shared before us, we would not have had a clue what to do. When our marks are gone, we will be gone and others will share information in our place and so and and so forth.
That is why we are here, and it is why you come here too, because whatever you say, you want rid of your marks too. Just try posting something positive please, because I don't want dragged down and neither does anyone else. I have my dark moments over the marks, but I keep them to myself, you need to learn to do the same.
Hope you get a routine and hope we are all free of these bloody marks asap!
to whomever is making these long posts about peels you are an absolute superstar . thank you so much for your help. i agree with all your points exactly.
just wanted to say thank you for keeping the hope alive when all these negative people are coming up pointless, info-less points.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: TCA...hyperpigmentation
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Hi
Just thought I would give an update, I have done a peel on my lower legs, which is almost finished peeling now and I have to say that tca is absolutely brilliant at reducing the marks. Now, I am not saying they have gone yet, but I cannot believe that if I do 3 or 4 peels on my lower legs they will not be gone, they have reduced so much already. I just want everyone who is using GA to consider buying a low strength tca peel and trying it for a couple of months on one area to see if they get results, if not they can continue with GA. I will never go back to using GA again though, because there is no way it is anywhere near as good as TCA. Obviously though if you do try it make sure you pick a test area that you can cope with problems if you have some sort of adverse reaction. And please stick to low strength tca.
J
Hi J,
I've been using glyc and not going on to to TCA for fear of hyperpigmentation (I've got brown skin, same as you), just wondered if you've experienced any hyperpigmentation since starting on the TCA?...
Hi all,
Just an update - have now gone through 10, technically 12 (the first 3 treatments were done in a period of two weeks so I only count them as one) of carboxy therapy. There have no results whatsoever.
I have now decided to start a routine with lactic acid in the mornings and copper peptides followed by emu oil at night. When and if my skin becomes able to tolerate the acid I will move on to tca peels.
I am on all the right supplements, msm, vitamin c, etc. And I am currently investigating going on the sugar free diet (including no dairy/gluten) If someone has an idea how the benefits of this differ from the raw food diet, let me know.
Finally, I am trying to stay positive, but at the same time, being overly positive can just be stupid, its STUPID to waste your time and money treating something that cannot be treated..
For all the talk that is done on the skin-bio website about how sm can be removed if only you have the diligence, the only picture they have up is a woman who had sm and old tca peel burns on her stomach... Personally, I see absolutely no difference in her stretch marks, only an improvement on her tca burns. Its important to stay positive, but its equally important to be realistic.
as for my rather unconventional method, I am experimenting and will let you know how it turns out.
This forum should present all views and not just one sided views. If attacking people who have different views makes you feel better about your own situation then good for you.
This forum should present all views and not just one sided views. If attacking people who have different views makes you feel better about your own situation then good for you.
Agreed, but if someone repeatedly posts that you cannot do anything, then why are they posting? I mean the forum is for people who want to help themselves, and surely the purpose is to encourage each other to find a solution. If someone believes that nothing can be done there is no purpose in posting, because they are already of the belief that nothing can be done.
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. thank you so much for your help. i agree with all your points exactly.