The De-Valuing of women by women.

[Drinker]

still trying to justify rape, huh?

After your "all men weigh the price" statement I can see how some would think your just trying to talk your way into some of the female members pants.
But I know it's your admitted problem with you being a man.

Justify...
Hmmm....
I'm not trying to justify...
Just make a point that even for you (Can't believe I am saying this) your penis does some thinking for you and see's sexual cues that peak your interest!

That's just the fact of guy's!

[elliott20]

and allow me to repeat myself:

STILL trying to justify rape, huh?

And you clearly forgot the "amoral" descriptor in that post. But I kind of expected as much.

[Drinker]

"castrated liberal agenda" !

That was a dig aimed solely at you

[elliott20]

"castrated liberal agenda" !

That was a dig aimed solely at you

yeah, I know. You're not creative enough to come up with anything new. Maybe you should ask your penis to write you some new material instead of using that pathetic brain of yours.

[Drinker]

and allow me to repeat myself:

STILL trying to justify rape, huh?

And you clearly forgot the "amoral" descriptor in that post. But I kind of expected as much.

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.
That would be immoral to mislead young women in favor of politically correct agendas that help women only after the fact!

[elliott20]

and allow me to repeat myself:

STILL trying to justify rape, huh?

And you clearly forgot the "amoral" descriptor in that post. But I kind of expected as much.

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.
That would be immoral to mislead young women in favor of politically correct agendas that help women only after the fact!

there are prudent measures. It's just that, there are ones that are more effective that you ignore.

telling woman the WRONG prudent measures to take and ignoring the more viable options makes them more vulnerable and is even MORE irresponsible than that.

[Drinker]

"castrated liberal agenda" !

That was a dig aimed solely at you

yeah, I know. You're not creative enough to come up with anything new. Maybe you should ask your penis to write you some new material instead of using that pathetic brain of yours.

I don't have to be creative... some fish chase the same worm every time.

[elliott20]

"castrated liberal agenda" !

That was a dig aimed solely at you

yeah, I know. You're not creative enough to come up with anything new. Maybe you should ask your penis to write you some new material instead of using that pathetic brain of yours.

I don't have to be creative... some fish chase the same worm every time.

Yeah, I'll bet that's why you're STILL trying to justify rape.

[Blond Adult Girl]

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.

I don't think that dressing more modestly is going to help our cause. It will only decrease the chances slightly.

[Drinker]

and allow me to repeat myself:

STILL trying to justify rape, huh?

And you clearly forgot the "amoral" descriptor in that post. But I kind of expected as much.

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.
That would be immoral to mislead young women in favor of politically correct agendas that help women only after the fact!

there are prudent measures. It's just that, there are ones that are more effective that you ignore.

telling woman the WRONG prudent measures to take and ignoring the more viable options makes them more vulnerable and is even MORE irresponsible than that.

The ones that are black and white on the subject are the women here that place motivatione SOLELY on power motivations.

That's not the injustice you are REALLY accusing me of.
For I think education for both sex's is necessary to help bring down the instance of rape.

The power women don't want that PERIOD.
For they cannot live with the implications that go contrary to what the counsellors have told them.
It means they were lied too!

[elliott20]

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.

I don't think that dressing more modestly is going to help our cause. It will only decrease the chances slightly.

meh, his cause is to get women to cover up, not really reduce rape. So if he could get women to dress modestly, you can bet he will instantly shut up about rape all together.

[Blond Adult Girl]

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.

I don't think that dressing more modestly is going to help our cause. It will only decrease the chances slightly.

meh, his cause is to get women to cover up, not really reduce rape. So if he could get women to dress modestly, you can bet he will instantly shut up about rape all together.

Okay. Lets take rape out of the equation for a minute.

Drinker, do you honestly care if a woman dresses modestly or not? Again, rape notwithstanding.

[Drinker]

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.

I don't think that dressing more modestly is going to help our cause. It will only decrease the chances slightly.

Maybe.
But then there are the girls that get date raped because they think no is no and ones sexual provocativeness has little influence on a drunk college guy!

[Blond Adult Girl]

Teaching women that there are NO prudent measures to be taken what so ever in protecting themselves is by far the most irresponsible thing a man can do.

I don't think that dressing more modestly is going to help our cause. It will only decrease the chances slightly.

Maybe.
But then there are the girls that get date raped because they think no is no and ones sexual provocativeness has little influence on a drunk college guy!

Even so, its the guys fault that he was drunk in the first place.

[Drinker]

Drinker, do you honestly care if a woman dresses modestly or not? Again, rape notwithstanding.

If I were Elliot... No.
But I am a NORMAL man, contrary to what others may think.
I am attracted to visual cues.

And you know this better than anyone here BAG! (referencing your avatar)
You could go up to any man with a low cut blouse and pick out the gay men from the straight ones in an instant!