Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: Wearing white socks
Fourteen is not too old to wear white socks. I know girls of this age who wear white socks as part of their school uniform. Does this girl have to wear socks outside of school as well? This might be difficult for the child but her mother is the one to decide. Fourteen is still very young.
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Wearing white socks
Lysander wrote:
Fourteen is not too old to wear white socks. I know girls of this age who wear white socks as part of their school uniform. Does this girl have to wear socks outside of school as well? This might be difficult for the child but her mother is the one to decide. Fourteen is still very young.
I have just added a message to another topic in this forum about a 16 year old girl who does not want to grow up and still wears white socks and children's clothes. What a contrast!
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: Wearing white socks
. wrote:
This girl’s mother deserves great credit for not giving into today’s pressures than mean just because they are teenagers they should start to look like, and start pretending to be adults. Many parents would like their children to dress as children rather than miniature adults, but give into their child’s whims or believe that because everyone else’s children are dressed in a certain manner their children must also. The girl probably isn’t particularly happy she has to remain in socks, but she understands quite rightly she must abide by her parents wishes. By wearing socks those who come into contact with her will know she is regarded as child and will therefore be treated as such. She will find that doing undesirable things like buying and smoking cigarettes are virtually impossible unlike other girls of her age who can pass as being much older.
I couldn't agree more with this post. The girl's mother certainly deserves great credit for not giving in to the usual pressures about clothes for teenagers. Well done her. My daughter attended a convent school where white socks were compulsory up to the end of Year 9 but I deliberately kept her in socks throughout Year 10 so she would work hard for her GCSEs. I made her wear white socks outside of school as well and I let her put on her first pair of tights a few months before her seventeenth birthday. Thereafter, if she misbehaved she spent a weekend in white socks to remind her that if she insisted on behaving like a child she would be dressed like one. She grew up to be a a charming young lady and I have no regrets about my strictness.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: White socks
Parents do have a right to dress their kids the way they want but sending a 14 year old girl to school in white knee socks when all her mates are wearing tights is not good. I know from experience that girls or boys who are made to dress differently from their classmates are teased and bullied and life can be hell for them.
Even if this girl isn't teased and bullied I would not send her to school in socks. If her mother feels strongly about not letting her daughter wear tights then she could make her wear socks outside of school but let her wear tights for schoolwear. Alternatively, let her move her daughter to a school where girls of this age still have to wear socks.
There can be questionable motives for why a parent make would make their daughter, who is approaching adulthood, wear white socks. It could be an indicator of abuse. Anne Nolan has recently published an autobiography (Anne’s Story) in which she mentions the abuse she suffered from her father. She tells of her father treating her like a little girl and not allowing her to wear tights. She left school in 1966, so the fact she has written about it some 40 years later, indicates the mark it has left on her. The link below has an interview with Anne Nolan and makes interesting reading.
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Wearing white socks
. wrote:
There can be questionable motives for why a parent make would make their daughter, who is approaching adulthood, wear white socks. It could be an indicator of abuse. Anne Nolan has recently published an autobiography (Anne’s Story) in which she mentions the abuse she suffered from her father. She tells of her father treating her like a little girl and not allowing her to wear tights. She left school in 1966, so the fact she has written about it some 40 years later, indicates the mark it has left on her. The link below has an interview with Anne Nolan and makes interesting reading.
I have just read this link abut Anne Nolan being kept in white socks by her father whilst other girls in her class wore tights. It is a sad and sorry tale as she was sexually abused by her father and I assume he kept her in white socks to make her less appealing to boys. Everyone would agree that this was totally wrong and a horribly cruel thing to do to a young teenage girl. However this topic has nothing to do with child abuse and is about whether parents have the right to keep their daughters dressed in a childish fashion.
As I said in my previous post it would be wrong to keep a girl in white socks if all her classmates are in tights because of the humiliation she could suffer. This said, if the mother feels so strongly about it then she could keep her daughter in socks out of school. There are still schools in the UK where 14 and 15 year old girls wear white socks as part of their uniform so in principle I see nothing wrong in girls of this age wearing them. It all depends on the circumstances.