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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was 14, I broke both my arms and needed help going to the bathroom and bathing. Because my mom worked evenings, the babysitter, who was 16 needed to help me. She was very thorough giving me a bath and I didn't mind so much but I was very embarrassed to have her help me go to the toilet.

Occasionally, she had a girlfriend over who was only 14 and she would let her watch her bathe me. I didn't like this but my mom said it was OK. I would get erect and both girls enjoyed washing and drying my penis.

This lasted for about 2 months until I was able to take care of myself. I'm no worse off for wear but I remember it like it was yesterday.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: babysitter giving bath Reply with quote

I remember when I was 12 or 13, (I didn't start puberty till 16), my 15 year old sister would give me baths regularly. I never felt selfconscious about taking my clothes off with her there, or her washing me - I often didn't want to put PJ's on after the bath, and ran about nude. PJ's always felt sticky on my damp skin.
Sometimes her girlfriend would be over and she'd be in there too; just talking and talking as I got bathed. That made me a little nervous, and I recall that I did get erections sometimes - I was a normal boy after all.. I'd try to cover it with my hands, which worked I think, till she washed down there or I had to get out of the tub to get dried. They never made fun of me or made me feel that I was being bad. My sister called it, "A little stiffy", and said it was perfectly normal and all boys get them and not to worry about it at all - she'd give me a little tickle to make me laugh, then go on back to talking to her girlfriend. It was not an issue of concern for her or her friend, so it wasn't for me. That's all there was to it. I giggled and forgot it. If anything, my memories and feelings about bath times are neutral to pleasant.
Every family is different, and every kid is different. I was very comfortable with it. I think I liked the attention and my sister apparently didn't mind, and we always got along well. That's why it went on till 13 or so. It wasn't an issue in my growing up. I havn't even thought of it until I came across this forum.
If you son is showing some resistance, by telling you, "No bath with the babysitter!" Listen to him. Tell him that bathing is now his responsibility. You mentioned that he's not circumsized, put him in the bath one more time yourself and teach him one more time how to wash his penis properly, explain why, and that's the end of it. If he continues to mention that it's itchy, it may be the soap, or take him to visit the doctor. If he's not washing properly, the doctor will set him straight. If you notice that he's not as clean as you'd like, mention it to him and ask that he do a better job tonight. That's it.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: Babysitter giving Bath - To Dawn F. Reply with quote

Refreshing to hear someone respond so honestly. Asking the boy to wash it himself the way his mom does was perfect. It respected him, and taught you.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: bathing boys with slight mental handicaps Reply with quote

Wow - your Mum still bathed you until you were 13! I bathed myself from around 6, I would've been well embarrassed if someone else was bathing me older than that. I think even with your Aspergers it's a bit wierd having your Mum bath you. I take it she washed your bottom while bathing you too?

David Ba. wrote:
Wow - what a topic. Some of the comments are interesting here. I haven't been bathed by a babysitter (although I've been seen nude a few times by the 21 y.o. girl we had when I was 12) but it sounds like various ethical issues would be raised if a teenage girl bathed a 12 y.o. boy so I think the boy's Mum would be the best bet to bathe him.
Now I think in certain circumstances it is okay for a boy of 12 to be bathed but only by his parents. While reading these posts I can relate to Nicholas' experiences as I have aspergers syndrome and had a slight mental handicap while growing up. I began puberty a bit later than other boys at around 13 - and Mum continued to bathe me twice a week until I was about 13. I think when Mum noticed I had a growth spurt and started to grow more pubic hair around my penis she suggested that I take over myself. But - like Nicholas I had no problems with Mum bathing me.
I think I would have felt uneasy about being bathed by our sitter but I would have been okay with her sitting in the bathroom while I had a bath at 12. This was probably because she'd seen me naked before and I knew her a long time as she was a friend of the family.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our society places too many stereotypes and biases on individual swxuality. We go to extremes to separate and differentiate the sexes for no real purpose. No other species does this. Here is an interesting article which I found elsewhere on the net. I think that the ideas in it have a lot of merit.

Gender Equality

IN THE BEGINNING: The human male and female were created equal (like the other creatures) with no sexual inhibitions or hidden secrets. We were at peace and in harmony with God, the universe and each other. Gender issues, as we know them today, did not exist. Then, we created many artificial differences that resulted in unnatural problems, secrecy and gender tensions.

CLOTHING: We first created clothing, not to protect us from the elements but to hide our physical differences from each other. This resulted in stereotyped female and male clothing to further disguise and promote our differences. It created unnatural secrecy, curiosity and tensions between female and male. What a giant step backward!

Today, the clothing trend is starting to reverse. It is now acceptable for the female to wear all traditional male styled clothing. However, there is still a real bias against the male wearing any traditional female styled clothing (skirts, dresses, blouses, underwear, lacy and frilly items).

RESTROOMS: Next, we created an unnatural secrecy around basic bodily functions by establishing separate restrooms for female and male users and implementing different levels of secrecy for both. The female was always provided private stalls with 6-foot walls and doors. However, the male was given open urinals and inadequate stalls. Male stalls were either non-existent or had only 4-foot walls (sometimes without doors). This secrecy only promoted unnatural curiosity and perversion.

Today, due to long lines, females frequently use male restrooms. However, the male is still prohibited from using the female restroom unless he can pass as a female. The family restroom addresses some aspects of this bias by permitting opposite gender assistance for children, elderly and handicapped. However, true unisex use is prohibited (even for married adults).

BATH, DRESSING, & SPORTS: When the concept of a bath was established, we again created separate facilities for the female and male. Heaven forbid they should see each other without clothes. We provided privacy curtains for the female, but not the male, in dressing and shower areas. Why the difference? We even added basic health and fitness as secret and forbidden differences by creating separate exercise and recreational facilities. Why so much secrecy?

OTHER GENDER BIAS: We continued these exclusions and differences to all areas of human life: employment, sports, recreation, family life, and etcetera. Fortunately, some of these biases are now being eliminated. However, the rate of change is much too slow.

CONCLUSIONS: We must establish true gender equality for everyone. Making all clothing acceptable for both sexes will abolish one stereotype. True unisex restrooms with adequate stalls for privacy will eliminate another bias and provide additional security for both female and male users. Bath and dressing facilities must be designed for unisex usage and individual privacy. Sports, health and recreation facilities must offer shared usage for both female and male users. Gender biases must also be eliminated from employment and all other social areas of our life.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on. At that age he should be doing it himself. Unless of course he wants the babysitter to help him. He might not be so stupid!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julie_H wrote:
Come on. At that age he should be doing it himself. Unless of course he wants the babysitter to help him. He might not be so stupid!!!
Maybe, maybe not, I dunno but from what CarolinaMom said in her post was that her son would have been uncomfortable with a teenage babysitter bathing him. So it would just be best if she bathed him herself before the babysitter arrived. Also, CarolinaMum would be able to tell by looking at her son in the bath whether he was starting puberty. I know that my Mum did the same when bathing me at 13: Once she noticed clear signs of pubic hair growth she used that as an indicator to get me to bathe myself from then on. (Mum bathed me until 13 largely due to my slight childhood autism/Aspergers Syndrome as mentioned in a previous post to this thread.)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was 12, I had a 15 yo babysitter give me a bath. I had started puberty but when she said "time for your bath!" I just went with the flow because she was really fine and it was kinda exciting to think what might happen. When she saw me get naked and that my dick was semi erect, she was very quiet and washed me as I stood up in the tub. She saved my private parts for last but by the time she got to them, my penis was completely stiff and my normal 5 inches in length. I asked if she was going to wash under the skin for me, and she said something about washing me like a mother cat. Her voice sounded funny. Let's just say she turned out to be my favorite sitter. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do we have such a hang-up over our sexual differences? Separation and secrecy (not openess and acceptance) lead to perversion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julie_H wrote:
Come on. At that age he should be doing it himself. Unless of course he wants the babysitter to help him. He might not be so stupid!!!

Yeah - I agree he should too but he probably isn't being as particular about getting clean as he should be. I really don't think a babysitter, especially a teenage one should be involved in bathing CarolinaMom's 12 y.o. son. I'm a 17 y.o. girl and I babysit children myself and I hardly get involve in bathing them (maybe 5 y/olds at the oldest). So - here is my suggestion for CarolinaMom: Ask your son to have a bath himself with the door open so that he can call you before he steps out of the tub so you can check that he looks clean. Do this for 2 or 3 times and if he has done an okay job then he's capable of bathing himself. If not then bathe him yourself.

I've noticed one or two instances where boys seem to be bathed by their Moms to 11 or 12. There was an interesting question posted in yahoo answers, 'How old is too old for a child to be bathed by an opposite sex parent or guardian?' I found the answer by a guy called david.band quite interesting to support this theory, although if you check his yahoo 360 profile you'll see by his age that his bathing would have happened around 23 years ago! He's also from Britain. I'm not sure if practices vary much between here and the US or from the 1980's.

This is the link to the yahoo answer he made on this topic:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080403181409AAyMGWK&cp=2

You'll see his answer at the bottom.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: babysitter giving bath Reply with quote

MillyMM wrote:
I don't know what all the fuss is about. CarolinaMom, the 15yo is your usual babysitter you know her so she should give him his bath. Boys really dont know how to wash. They can be dirty little grubs. When I first went baby sitting mummy would go with me at the start and watched me bath all ages showing me how to wash properly. I soon got used to it and I babysat on my own then. Bathing boys up to 12 or so was just part of babysitting, even showing them how to wash their foreskins properly. I never told anyome about my babysitting cos its none of their business. I guess living in the country is different.
Milly, you're a moron saying that all boys are dirty and don't know how to wash. I'll bet you might be a female grub yourself and hate to admit it so you say boys can't wash to make yourself feel better. You ought to get a grip on life and face reality being a sexist pig as you are.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Why do we have such a hang-up over our sexual differences? Separation and secrecy (not openess and acceptance) lead to perversion.


Lol, I left this forum board god knows how long and argued this point befor my departure. I see some things have yet to die.


Even if I were to agree with you that "openess" as you put it should be allowed. This does not exclude the fact the upcoming young man should be able to bathe himself.

Now hypothetically, agreeing with you here [because I don't]. That is not the norm. And it shouldn't begin in a situation as easily misinterpreted like this. We are talking about kids that could easily be mortified. It's unfair to him.

Granted it would be nice to have gender equality. Traditionally "natural" fairness does not exist. With it we'd need to accept we are in fact different and understand this. However, everyday we strive to make our genders the same?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mother stopped giving me baths when I was about 10. A little later my parents became concerned that I wasn't washing under my foreskin and so for a while my dad and I had baths together - he only washed himself and I learnt by example. I loved sharing the bath with dad and felt no embarrassment at all.

A year on, when I was bathing alone again and still before I reached puberty, I was given a bath by a middle-aged nurse when my mother was ill. This time I was embarrassed, mainly because she was a stranger. I was also annoyed because I reckoned I was perfectly capable by then and relieved when she did not try to clean my genitals (and yes, I had been washing properly!). It would not have bothered me at that age or a bit older if a young regular babysitter had just watched whilst I had my bath - in fact I would have enjoyed the company!

Bathtime is a wonderful opportunity to talk and relax (in Japan whole families bathe together) and I think it is terribly sad when people say that they have stopped such intimacy long before puberty. However, I'm in my 60's, so perhaps parental attitudes are different now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

~Bellagurl~ wrote:

This is the link to the yahoo answer he made on this topic:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080403181409AAyMGWK&cp=2

You'll see his answer at the bottom.


Soz - I think I gave the wrong page link to the guy on yahoo called david.band. It should have been this:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20080403181409AAyMGWK

It still seems he's been open about his Mum still bathing him at 12 and at secondary school!! Surprised
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